The Big (bang)?

July 25, 2005 / by AngryRepublican

Well. This is the second part of our attempt to give the other side a little bit of time on The Angry Republican site. As you probably already know, we deeply care about presenting all sides of each issue.(choke)..SO.. Last time we looked at how long The Big Bang Took. Now lets look at The Big Bang itself..

In the beginning there was a huge void.. No wait.. They changed that because a void has nothing in it and we know Atoms were flying around in there so it couldn''t be a void. OK.. In this. space, Atoms were flying around. No wait.. They changed that too because Atoms fly around all the time and we do not have little universes created everyday..OK.. In this void/space.. We have particles zipping along..Wait..no.. They changed that too. Particles slam into each other all the time, there would be hundreds of universes everywhere.

OK, now I have it.. In the space/void. There where two-- Super-special-magical particles. (super-special-magical particles because only a couple ever were created.) These super-special-magical particles were going REALLY fast and they slammed into each other..BANG. Fast forward 17 billion years and a handful of monkeys decided to get smart, the other monkeys didn''t want to. BINGO. Here we are.

Now, maybe because a bunch of students each year would ask Teachers: "How would you get this big universe out of two particles?" Science has given us another possibility.. The Black Hole-Big Bang Theory..

I have decided to write the set-up like Dr Seuss would.. Here we go..

There once was a huge void, that wasn''t much of a void at all.
There lived a Black Hole with no hole, he was more like a ball.

This ball was BIG, Colossal, INDEED this ball would be tall.
Except for the fact that this ball was very, very, very small.

Ok.. Here we go. In the void,(which isn''t a void) There is a Black Hole, (which isn''t a hole) There is a huge ball, but it isn''t huge because of it''s size, It has mass crammed up the Ying-Yang. This ball really SUCKs. It is sucking everything into itself because it has so much gravity. You wouldn''t be able to see this ball because light cannot even leave its surface. ("How do we know it is there if we can''t see it?") You must just trust me my child. You must have faith.
THIS BALL HAS SUCKED LONG ENOUGH...BANG!!!!!
Then of course you have that monkey getting smart thing.. Then you have us--we- You and I.

If you happen to be studying The Big Bang Theory this year, let me give you some advice. DO NOT LAUGH while the professor is telling you this stuff. Do not ask questions like "Who or what made The Black Hole." This will get you into trouble. If you can, view a couple of Nazi prison camp movies before you go to class. Study the prisoners. When the teacher begins, DO NOT MAKE EYE CONTACT WITH THE TEACHER. Sit very still, Don''t ask questions. You can make it through the lecture without laughing, I did. While the teacher is talking, think of a dying puppy. It''s sad, but it helps.AR.

12 comments on The Big (bang)?

  • manning said 3 years ago
    That sounds like a middle school teachers interpretation. I'm interested in where you got it from. Something that is void doesn't have size, how can one nothing be larger then another. And the size of the bang that started within the void would be smaller then an atom, so two atoms could not have fit, and atoms didn't even develop until the universe was very old. The confusion your coming across stems from the pure speculation being done by astronomers. The mathematical equations that inspired the big bang theory break down at at the void, this is why physicist backed off a little. Astronomers took the theory and ran, in different directions, without a solid foundation. Yes the big bang theory at its very core is flawed, which is why physicist have gone back to work, your not going to hear about any of that for a while though. In the meantime, there is some good science behind the theory that doesn't go mainstream because people couldn't understand it, especially the liberals who try promote it. Don't let them turn you off to the theoretical sciences, you have a huge list of theoretical physicist to thank just for being able to have a computer.
  • manning said 3 years ago
    I was going to drag this on cause it is interesting but I'm just going to kill it now cause I'm losing sleep over it.
    You seem to be approaching this from the perspective that scientist sit and around and say, well maybe the universe started this way. Physics is done in pure mathemtics, pages and pages of equations. These equations make predictions or explain phenomena, and these equations are the real theory. The stuff that you read and her from pundits is someone (usually not the people who did the math) trying to translate the implications of the equations into english. This doesn't always work well because math is one truth based off of another and another in a slow and arduos process, niether english nor any other launguage but math works this way. The person who translates the implications doesn't tranlsate the proofs because any attempt to do so would end up more convoluted then Wolf's attampt to explain the first attosecond of the universe. Reading these very short translations and trying to critique the theory is like an athiest trying to critique christainity after reading a jehova's witness pamphlet, your instantly going to recognize that he doesn't know what he's talking about. Liberals have been screwing up scientific theroies (especially environmental ones) this way for thirty years. Now conservatives are about to screw up a good MATHEMATICAL theory in intelligent design the same way. Scientist pay very little attention to politics and so don't realize that they need to come out and say, either go back to school and learn calculus so that you can atually understand these theories or shut up and leave the stuff to us.
  • AngryRepublican said 3 years ago
    Now Manning. Don't lose sleep over this stuff. It isn't that important. I may let the "cat out of the bag" here by what I say, but I am proving a point that is bigger then Physics. I can see why you took offence at my post. You having studied Physics, are taking this thing personal. But to get from point A to point D. I must step on a few things. Physics happened to be one of those stepping stones. Sorry...AR.
  • longthought said 3 years ago
    Not being a Christian, Being more of a Pantheist, I would tend to agree with your argument. The "Big Bang" theory or any other theory attempting to explain our origins is absolutely futile. Trying to explain the infinite with a finite mind is not possible, although I do believe on a personal level of meditation sometimes one can capture a feeling of timelessness or infinitum, as momentary as it may be. To actually portray that in any scientific manner is at best comical and at worst sad.
  • longthought said 3 years ago
    Oh boy, In reading your comments from Manning I think we might have a good time here.
  • grumpy said 3 years ago
    Excellent job on explaining the big bang theory, I now have a complete understanding. But can you explain one of the greatest mysteries of our time? Why is it no matter what line I get into at Wal-Mart the other lines go faster?
  • manning said 3 years ago
    You didn't step on physics, its astronomies theory, it's just that the subject brings to mind many other arguments to be had. You and LT are helpng to make my point though (how often will I get to say that), the human mind cannot comprehend the universe, we can't make up logical theories to explain everything. That's exactly why physics is done only in math. We can talk about the big bang theory for the next hundred years and none of us will come close to stating what really is, because what it is is a whole notebooks worth of mathematical equations, some of which make predictions that always come true. But because these predictions deal with the movement of atoms and other miniscule stuff no one is ever going to bother putting it in words. Even if someone tried, they would fail, because math can't be accuratly translated into normal forms of communication. Nothing in math is made up, it's all discovered. The equations that govern the universe existed before we wrote them down, otherwise the universe wouldn't move, or have any forces, or life to discover the equations. E=mc2 always existed, just as rocks existed before we came up with a name for them. Where math branches off is when we start getting philisophical, because at that point we are making shit up, not naming things that were already there. Math doesn't make anything up, if you stumble across an equation that descibes a specific event, it was always there, or else the event couldn't have happened. Its great to have philisophical discusions about the universe, I'm just premising it by saying if your talking about a mathematical theory, which the big bang is currently not because of the breakdown of the math at the last moment, which may change, then that mathematical theory is not philosophy, its a law of nature. Not that anyone was arguing with me on this point, I'm just putting it out there before we continue.
  • manning said 3 years ago
    By the way I am a panthiest too, thats not necessarily contradictory to christainity though.
  • AngryRepublican said 3 years ago
    Thanks Grumpy, LT and Manning for the comments. I stepped on physics in the previous post.. "Quantum Leap of Faith". In this post I am picking on several theories. You mentioned something that I feel is fascinating, and yet scary. You said: "That sounds like a middle school teachers interpretation." Well, middle school teachers are responsible for the education of all of us. Unless we go on and dive deep into physics like you have, Most Americans will grow up with THIS rolling around in their heads.. Spooky.AR.
  • manning said 3 years ago
    Exactly, it scares me that the people leading the layman scientific disussion know so little about science. Thats why I was trying to establish the difference between science and philosophy. The math that leads up to(but stops before) big bang theory is science, the speculation that went towards the actual "big bang" is philosophy. People only know the latter, and call it science. Teachers only know the latter, and call it science.
  • bluefunk said 3 years ago
    People like you suck and your dangerous. There are people out there that are stupid and they read this stuff. It's hard enough for teachers to teach without someone like you perverting stuff.
  • AngryRepublican said 3 years ago
    BINGO. We have a winner. I was kind of waiting on a comment such as this one.. Please see next post above^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^..AR

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